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:lol::up:After dinner, yesterday. :-D
:lol::up:After dinner, yesterday. :-D
Research is key, engee; moreover, it didn't make sense, at least to me, that (according to Snappy) the LDCE would provide 2 near-identical examples for the same entry without explaining the difference between the two. As it turns out, the LDCE didn't provide 2 near-identical examples.Why ever did you try to find the example? :?:
You could have saved your time by reading my post #4.In other words, the answer to Snappy's question was in the LDCE all along, and the reason I did the research.
Are these both acceptable and the same in meaning?
"Would you mind if I opened the window?"
"Would you mind if I open the window?"
In answer to your question, yes, both "open the window" and "opened the window" are acceptable English.
The Standard (i.e., formal language, including spoken and written English) houses a present tense verb.
In other words, the answer to Snappy's question was in the LDCE all along, and the reason I did the research.
"Would you mind if I opened the window?" The dictionary explains that it is spoken and used when making a polite request.
You could have saved your time by reading my post #4.
I agree with engee.
It's only either Would you mind if I opened the window? or Do you mind if I open the window? that is correct.
Their entry:[#]8 spoken
would/do you mind...?
a) used to politely ask someone's permissio
Would you mind if I opened the window?
Would you mind if I came with you?
I'll have to leave early, do you mind?
Luckily, I've got a standard edition of the dictionary installed on my laptop in which it is clearly shown (in the module Longman Language Activator) that the structures are used with different tense forms of the verb in each case:
would/do you mind if
Would you mind if I held the baby?
Do you mind if I just turn down the volume a little?
That's the thing that I suppose made [STRIKE]Snappy[/STRIKE] (you, engee) so confused about the issue.
Some justification for posting a summary of various postings in the thread?
In other words, the answer to Snappy's question was in the LDCE all along, and the reason I did the research
From an academic standpoint, use formal language (Would you mind if I open) in writing and on formal occasions (e.g., in an exam) and use English (spoken) elsewhere
The Standard (i.e., formal language, including spoken and written English) houses a present tense verb.
You could have saved your time by reading my post #4.
I could only find ... "Would you mind if I opened the window?"
I agree with engee (= Would you mind If I open... is incorrect).
Are these both acceptable and the same in meaning?
"Would you mind if I opened the window?"
"Would you mind if I open the window?"
Sorry, Svartnik, but I must weigh in with Raymott and engee on this one. In my opinion, both as a grammarian and as an educated native speaker,
[Would you mind if I V?] - as compared with [Would you mind if I Ved] -
is nonstandard.
The issue is simply one of tense concord in conditional sentences, and in this the correct usage, as we would expect, parallels exactly the structure of any other 2nd conditional, e.g.
Would you buy a car if you had the money?
and not
*...if you have...
.
I could only find one mention in the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English of this example under 'mind'. "Would you mind if I opened the window?"
Did you make a mistake in your question?
Anyhow, I agree with engee.
Would you mind if I open a window?
I made a mistake. I found the above sentence under "if" in the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English.
Yes, Snappy, that is correct too and there is no difference between the past and present form versions.
What if someone said something like this:
Do you mind if I opened the window?
There are three possible structures."Would you mind if I opened the window?" is found for the usage of the word "mind" in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English. The dictionary explains that it is spoken and used when making a polite request.
In the same dictionary, "Would you mind if I open a window?" is also found for the usage of the word "mind."
Are these both acceptable and the same in meaning?
"Would you mind if I opened the window?"
"Would you mind if I open the window?"
Of course I read your thread. I read all of the contributions. That yours was or wasn't authoritative wasn't of issue nor was it the issue. ;-)You could have saved your time by reading my post #4.
It's great to hear that you found the example.Would you mind if I open a window?
I made a mistake. I found the above sentence under "if" in the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English.
What if someone said something like this:
Do you mind if I opened the window?
Is this better or worse than Do you mind if I open the window? Or maybe they're interchangeable and mean the same?
R.The question remains, which group do you believe?
1. Longman, svartnik, CaliJim, Soup
2. eng, Ray, Philo, dawoodusmani
I suggest that you go along with group #1.
That wouldn't be because you're in it, would it? :-D
Soup only counts for one, and I've added dawoodusmani
It's a courageous move posting this list in support of your argument!
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