[Grammar] I meant after the Novel Coronavirus has left.

[kadioguy]

(In the comments of the singer)

Thanks Kaohsiung City Government for inviting me to promote tourism for this beautiful city. Welcome people from all over the world to Kaohsiung! (I meant after the Novel Coronavirus has left lah...)

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a. I meant after the Novel Coronavirus has left.

b. I mean, after the Novel Coronavirus has left.

In this case do (a) and (b) both work? Which one do you prefer?

I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part. That's why I think (a) and (b) both work. What do you think?

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(Source)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrMwzax_SU4

 

[GoesStation]

The present simple is more natural.

 

[lagoo]

Welcome people from all over the world to Kaohsiung!

Forgive me for inserting my question here.
Do natives really say ‘welcome someone to somewhere’ as is showed in the OP, or just ‘welcome to somewhere’ to show hospitality?

 

[kadioguy]

The present simple is more natural.

Is this because the two parts are so close?

 

[Matthew Wai]

Is this because the two parts are so close?

I think this is because the singer was talking about what he thought at the moment of writing.

Do natives really say ‘welcome someone to somewhere’ as is showed in the OP, or just ‘welcome to somewhere’ to show hospitality?

I would say "Everybody is welcome to visit Kaohsiung when the virus has been wiped out".

 

[kadioguy]

Thank you all.

Here is a follow-up question:

I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part. That's why I think (a) and (b) both work. What do you think?

Am I right in using the present progressive here? Which of the following would you use, and why?

1. I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

2. I say so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

3. I said so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

 

[Tdol]

Forgive me for inserting my question here.
Do natives really say ‘welcome someone to somewhere’ as is showed in the OP, or just ‘welcome to somewhere’ to show hospitality?

You can welcome someone to something/somewhere.

 

[Tdol]

Is this because the two parts are so close?

The past would work if you were correcting or clarifying something said earlier.

 

[Matthew Wai]

Am I right in using the present progressive here? Which of the following would you use, and why?

1. I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

2. I say so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

3. I said so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

I would say "I have asked so because ..." if I have just asked a question and am waiting for an answer.

 

[GoesStation]

I would say "I have asked so because ..." if I have just asked a question and am waiting for an answer.

That doesn't work. To say so is a phrasal verb. You can't change the verb and keep the preposition.

 

[Matthew Wai]

That doesn't work. To say so is a phrasal verb. You can't change the verb and keep the preposition.

"So" is marked as an adverb in Oxford: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/so_1?q=so
Scroll down to definition #5. There are "hope so", "think so", "says so", and "did so".
Is there a reason why "asked so" cannot be used?

 

[kadioguy]

1. I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

2. I say so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

3. I said so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

4. I have said so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

Could you tell me which one you would use and the reason?

 

[kadioguy]

1. I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

2. I say so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

3. I said so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

4. I have said so, because the green part is just followed by the red part.

Could you tell me which one you would use and the reason?

Verb tenses are ones of the hardest English grammar points for Chinese speakers to understand. Could you help me? :-?

 

[Matthew Wai]

Unfortunately, only a Chinese speaker is willing to respond.

When you use the sentence, the act of saying so already finished, so I think a tense referring to the recent past should be used. Both the simple past and the present perfect can refer to the recent past. Since you are expecting a reply, there is a connection to the present, and the present perfect denotes such a connection, so I think the present perfect is preferable.

 

[Matthew Wai]

What are you actually referring to when you use 'so'?

See post #1.

 

[jutfrank]

There are several things I don't understand about post #1.

1) Where did the English text come from? It seems to be a translation from Chinese. If so, who or what translated it?
2) The green part is not followed by the red part.
3) What is 'lah'?
4) Does 'so' mean 'they both work'?

 

[Matthew Wai]

1) Where did the English text come from? It seems to be a translation from Chinese. If so, who or what translated it?

Click here to see the screenshot in post #1.
The singer wrote it in Chinese and English.

 

[kadioguy]

There are several things I don't understand about post #1.

2) The green part is not followed by the red part.
3) What is 'lah'?
4) Does 'so' mean 'they both work'?

2) Why? I think it is. :shock:
The idea which I meant to express in post #1 is that the green part and the red part are like a person's talking without interruption. So I think it is possible to use the present simple "mean" .

Thanks Kaohsiung City Government for inviting me to promote tourism for this beautiful city. Welcome people from all over the world to Kaohsiung! (I meant after the Novel Coronavirus has left lah...)

3) The singer is an Malaysian; therefore I assume that 'lah' is Malaysian-style English, which is used like "ah" or "aha" in English.

4) Yes.

In this case do (a) and (b) both work? Which one do you prefer?

I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part. That's why I think (a) and (b) both work. What do you think?

 

[kadioguy]

You are not saying they both work; you are asking if they do..

Sorry for that. Here is an improved version:

In this case do (a) and (b) both work? Which one do you prefer?

I assume that they both work.

I am saying so, because the green part is just followed by the red part. That's why I think (a) and (b) both work. What do you think?

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Here, if you don't mind, please let us get back to the original question.

a. I am saying so, because ...

b. I say so, because ...

c. I said so, because ...

d. I have said so, because ...

Which one should I use? Could you tell the reason?

 

[Matthew Wai]

I want to add an option: (E) I assume so because ...