Can't make out half of the words

[Vladv1]

Could you please tell what he is saying at 38.25-38-33, 38.36-38.50. Would be very grateful. https://www.spreaker.com/episode/lo...&utm_source=widget&utm_campaign=episode-title

 

[emsr2d2]

38:25 to 38:33
"... able to see, it's a bit like someone who goes to the town planning office, and looks to see "Oh, there's someone put in a plan for a new shopping centre there".


38:36 to 38:50
Joe Bloggs who's walking up and down the road doesn't ... doesn't have any idea there's a new shopping centre coming in, goes off on his holidays or something, and two weeks later, three weeks later comes back and suddenly, you know, a load of buildings are knocked down. She goes "What's going on?"