called me heavenward in Christ Jesus

[Matthew Wai]

While some previous posts mentioned blood, I doubt it was suggested in the OP's sentence, whose Chinese translation does not suggest it, but I am not a teacher.

 

[Raymott]

Think what you want. It seems like you talk for everybody. What is the natural way you will say it?

Of course Piscean speaks only for himself. But many have wondered why you are so slow to understand. It might be an exercise for you to apply your best efforts to thinking about why 'heat' is not the same as 'bake' and let us know what you come up with.
Alternatively, you could choose to tell us what your learning difficulties are - simply in pursuit of us being able to respond better to you. Naturally you're not obliged to do any of this.

 

[mawes12]

Of course Piscean speaks only for himself. But many have wondered why you are so slow to understand. It might be an exercise for you to apply your best efforts to thinking about why 'heat' is not the same as 'bake' and let us know what you come up with.
Alternatively, you could choose to tell us what your learning difficulties are - simply in pursuit of us being able to respond better to you. Naturally you're not obliged to do any of this.

Can you tell me why it isn't the same?

 

[Tdol]

"bake" to me is the same as "heat" or "heat up".

It's not the same- you bake things in ovens, but you can heat them up in many ways. Warming something in the microwave is not baking.

 

[mawes12]

It's not the same- you bake things in ovens, but you can heat them up in many ways. Warming something in the microwave is not baking.

You can heat things in ovens. Right?

 

[Matthew Wai]

I don't have anything against you, but I also doubted you were a native speaker when you failed to understand what I, a Chinese person, could understand.

 

[mawes12]

I don't have anything against you, but I also doubted you were a native speaker when you failed to understand what I, a Chinese person, could understand.

What did I fail to understand? and someone can be a native or not but there are people who aren't native and understand quick. They're just arguing about the definition and I started learning grammar this year.

 

[mawes12]

You can.

(I don't know why my post is appearing in italics.)

So isn't that the same as "bake in the oven"?

I don't see the italics.

 

[Rover_KE]

No. Read post #27 again.

 

[mawes12]

No. Read post #27 again.

I understood that. Why is "bake something in the oven" not the same as "heat something in the oven"?

 

[Matthew Wai]

What did I fail to understand?

You failed to understand why baking is not the same as heating, according to your question below.

Why is "bake something in the oven" not the same as "heat something in the oven"?

I think steaming also involves heating, yet it is not the same as heating, but I am not a teacher.

 

[Mrfatso]

You can heat things in ovens. Right?

Not A Teacher

Yes but you can heat things in other ways than putting them in an oven. You can put a kettle on to heat water up to its boiling point, microwave some pasta, you can put lead into a crucible and heat it to melting point to cast metal soldiers and you can put the fire on to heat a room. All of these are heating something not all of them are cooking.

 

[Matthew Wai]

So isn't that the same as "bake in the oven"?

You can also defrost something in an oven. Would you consider 'defrosting' and 'baking' to be the same?

Not a teacher.

 

[mawes12]

You can also defrost something in an oven. Would you consider 'defrosting' and 'baking' to be the same?

It isn't the same but you are heating things using different things and to a different level/degree or aren't you?

Y'all say I don't understand but I think y'all don't understand me.

 

[Tdol]

Baking is more than simply heating. It does transfer heat, but so does rubbing something. However, I'd bake bread in an oven rather than rub it with my hand in the hope that I could heat it up and turn it into a loaf.

Baking produces things like crusts. Microwaves are not renowned for their ability to produce the Maillard reaction. Poaching an egg is not the same as boiling or frying one, but all involve heat. It is not a question of the degree or presence of heat alone- the medium is the message in cooking. It is not a question of us not understanding your deductions. But maybe I am too stupid to get the brilliance of someone who has worked out that cooking involves heating things so there is no difference between frying/poaching/boiling/roasting, etc, etc.

I am closing this thread because I am not sure that any of us can take any more of this.