The pronunciation of 'issue'...

[Mehrgan]

Hi all,

The other day I eas watching a clip by Jeremy Harmer in which he, for several times, pronounced the word 'issue' as /ɪsju:/, which I enjoyed a lot! But the question is, what proportion of the British speakers would still pronounce it the same way as Mr Harmer did?


(Another word I hear a different pronunciation of is 'negotiation', pronounced /negəʊsɪ'eɪʃn/!)

Thanks a lot.

 

[DontBanMe]

Hi all,

The other day I eas watching a clip by Jeremy Harmer in which he, for several times, pronounced the word 'issue' as /ɪsju:/, which I enjoyed a lot! But the question is, what proportion of the British speakers would still pronounce it the same way as Mr Harmer did?


(Another word I hear a different pronunciation of is 'negotiation', pronounced /negəʊsɪ'eɪʃn/!)

Thanks a lot.

Hey, I think the first one is the pronunciation especially for British speaker while another one is American pronunciation. I may be wrong. So, Please just take this as a reply.

 

[Raymott]

Hi all,

The other day I eas watching a clip by Jeremy Harmer in which he, for several times, pronounced the word 'issue' as /ɪsju:/, which I enjoyed a lot! But the question is, what proportion of the British speakers would still pronounce it the same way as Mr Harmer did?


(Another word I hear a different pronunciation of is 'negotiation', pronounced /negəʊsɪ'eɪʃn/!)

Thanks a lot.

Our Prime Minister says /negəʊsɪ'eɪt/. Everyone makes fun of her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49zF8m7ys24

 

[EngFan]

As I know, there should have a "Sh" sound in this word like "i. Shuu", so the phonetic symbol is /ɪʃu:/ because ʃ = Sh.....

 

[5jj]

As I know, there should have a "Sh" sound in this word like "i. Shuu", so the phonetic symbol is /ɪʃu:/ because ʃ = Sh.....

There is no 'should' about it. It's a matter of personal choice.

According to John Wells, 40% of speakers of BrE say /ɪʃu:/, 30% /ɪsju:/and 21% /ɪʃju:/. He does not give percentages for 'negotiate', but he gives both /ʃɪ/and /sɪ/versions. Roach et al give no figure, but give both /ʃ/and /sj/and versions for both words.

I am a /sj/ person.

Wells, J C (2008) Longman Pronunciation Dictionary(3rd edn), Harlow: PearsonLongman.
Roach, Peter; Hartman, James & Setter, Jane (eds) (2003) : Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary, Cambridge: CUP

 

[BobK]

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(Another word I hear a different pronunciation of is 'negotiation', pronounced /negəʊsɪ'eɪʃn/!)

Thanks a lot.

:up: The /...s...ʃ.../ is, I believe, the older. In that case, the /...ʃ...ʃ.../ version would have come about through - as mentioned elsewhere - assimilation.

b
PS OK, I'll stop banging on about this, but it seems to be the Word of the Day.

 

[konungursvia]

Our Prime Minister says /negəʊsɪ'eɪt/. Everyone makes fun of her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49zF8m7ys24

Nothing wrong with that pronunciation.

 

[birdeen's call]

Nothing wrong with that pronunciation.

Is it common in Canada?

 

[konungursvia]

Not very, but not rare either.

 

[Raymott]

Nothing wrong with that pronunciation.

I agree, personally. But you know how people like to take the piss out of pollies. She does have a terrible accent though. During the last election she copped a lot of flack for her excessive r-elision when referring to the Leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbot. "Mr Abbott" always comes out as "Mr. Rabbit". Some of the more cynical commentators thought it might be deliberate.
http://media.theage.com.au/gillard-pulls-a-mr-rabbit-out-of-hat-1706808.html

 

[BobK]

Nothing wrong with that pronunciation.

But consider context. That particular comedian is presumably one of the people who think that pronunciation in a way associated with the imperialist oppressors is for pooftahs. ;-)

b

 

[konungursvia]

I had a pooftah once, in the shower, but it began to smell.

 

[matilda]

Hi all,

The other day I eas watching a clip by Jeremy Harmer in which he, for several times, pronounced the word 'issue' as /ɪsju:/, which I enjoyed a lot! But the question is, what proportion of the British speakers would still pronounce it the same way as Mr Harmer did?


(Another word I hear a different pronunciation of is 'negotiation', pronounced /negəʊsɪ'eɪʃn/!)

Thanks a lot.

In British English I have noticed /isju/ is more common in RP speakers