walks the ramp

[payal desai]

1.That model walks on the ramp.
2.That model walks the ramp.

Why in the second sentence 'on' is not used?

 

[Rover_KE]

In what context did you see these sentences?

 

[mykwyner]

It is idiomatic. "Walking the ramp" means being a clothing model at a live show in the same way that "treading the boards" means acting on stage in a theater.

 

[Coolfootluke]

I am not a teacher.

The first "walk" is intransitive, and the second is transitive. A models walks the catwalk, runway or ramp, she does not walk on it.

 

[payal desai]

In what context did you see these sentences?

I read it in a newspaper.

 

[payal desai]

It is idiomatic. "Walking the ramp" means being a clothing model at a live show in the same way that "treading the boards" means acting on stage in a theater.

If it is an idiom then why can't I find it any book of idioms like this can be found -'tread the boards'.

 

[payal desai]

I am not a teacher.

The first "walk" is intransitive, and the second is transitive. A models walks the catwalk, runway or ramp, she does not walk on it.

k but even if the second one is transitive then how can anyone walk something like catwalk, runway or ramp.

 

[5jj]

k but even if the second one is transitive then how can anyone walk something like catwalk, runway or ramp.

I don't think it is transitive, any more than 'run' in the slightly different 'run a mile'.

However, whether or not it is transitive, the idiomatic expression is used as mykwyner explained in post #3.

 

[Coolfootluke]

k but even if the second one is transitive then how can anyone walk something like catwalk, runway or ramp.

I am not a teacher.

Of course it is transitive. It has an object: ramp. You could look in a dictionary, too. It is not idiom, it is a straightforward definition of the word. "Tread the boards" is an expression meaning "act in a play", "to walk the floor" is to fret, but we can run a race, walk the streets, climb every mountain, ford every stream---there is nothing odd here.

 

[5jj]

Of course it is transitive. It has an object: ramp.

To a learner there is no question of 'of course' it is transitive. There is are qualitative differences between building a ramp, walking the dog and walking the ramp.

You could look in a dictionary, too.

My COD gives 8 intransitive uses of walk and one transitive, covering: - cause to walk with one, accompany in walking, ride or lead an animal, take charge of a puppy at walk. So, no help in the dictionary there.

It is not idiom, it is a straightforward definition of the word.

Well it's not definition, and it is not particularly straightforward to a learner meeting it for the first time.

"Tread the boards" is an expression meaning "act in a play", "to walk the floor" is to fret,That is a new one on me. but we can run a race, walk the streets, climb every mountain, ford every stream---there is nothing odd here.

There's nothing odd to you, but many people reading this are learners. When they have probably learnt that 'run' and 'walk' are intransitive then they may well wonder if some words are ellipted in 'run a race' (in), run a mile (for), walk the boards (on).

If we claim that 'of course' certain things are true, or that things that appear strange to them are not at all odd, then we are not helping build their confidence.

 

[Coolfootluke]

I am not a teacher.

I apologize to payal desai if I seemed harsh. As penance, I will try to explain more fully.

There are two kinds of verb: transitive and intransitive. A transitive verb takes an object. In "the dog ate the bone", "bone" is the object of the verb "ate". An intransitive verb has no object. In "the dog ate", "ate" has no object. Not only do we not know what the dog ate, we do not care. All we want to say is that the dog consumed food.

The same verb can be either transitive and intransitive, depending on what you mean, like "to eat" above, but many verbs are always either one or the other. "To die" is intransitive (you cannot die anything). "To recognize" is transitive (you cannot simply recognize, you have to recognize something).

"Walk" is normally intransitive. We can walk "around" (adverb). We can walk "to the corner" (adverbial phrase). We can simply walk (or not, if we have broken our leg).

The "walk" you see in "walk the ramp" is transitive. There are many definitions of "walk" under the transitive rubric. We can walk the dog. We can walk a friend home. We can walk a batter in baseball. These are active---we make the object walk. But we can also walk the streets. This is somewhat different. It is we who are doing the walking.

You can think of it like there is a word missing: walk [upon] the ramp, walk [upon] the battlements. But there is no word missing, you just have to adjust your idea of the verb "to walk" to include this definition, which is plain English. It is no more strange than "run the mile" or "swim the Channel" or "go the distance" or "jump the fence".

 

[5jj]

I apologize to payal desai if I seemed harsh. As penance, I will try to explain more fully.

And I apologise to you for the aggressive tone of my post. I must learn to count to ten before posting.

I don't completely accept your views on transitive verbs, but that is irrelevant to this post, so I shall say no more.

payal desai, as far as your original question is concerned, Coolfootluke's words are helpful:

'You can think of it like there is a word missing: walk [upon] the ramp, walk [upon] the battlements. But there is no word missing, you just have to adjust your idea of the verb "to walk" to include this definition, which is plain English. It is no more strange than "run the mile" or "swim the Channel" or "go the distance" or "jump the fence".

 

[payal desai]

I am not a teacher.

I apologize to payal desai if I seemed harsh. As penance, I will try to explain more fully.

There are two kinds of verb: transitive and intransitive. A transitive verb takes an object. In "the dog ate the bone", "bone" is the object of the verb "ate". An intransitive verb has no object. In "the dog ate", "ate" has no object. Not only do we not know what the dog ate, we do not care. All we want to say is that the dog consumed food.

The same verb can be either transitive and intransitive, depending on what you mean, like "to eat" above, but many verbs are always either one or the other. "To die" is intransitive (you cannot die anything). "To recognize" is intransitive (you cannot simply recognize, you have to recognize something).

"Walk" is normally intransitive. We can walk "around" (adverb). We can walk "to the corner" (adverbial phrase). We can simply walk (or not, if we have broken our leg).

The "walk" you see in "walk the ramp" is transitive. There are many definitions of "walk" under the transitive rubric. We can walk the dog. We can walk a friend home. We can walk a batter in baseball. These are active---we make the object walk. But we can also walk the streets. This is somewhat different. It is we who are doing the walking.

You can think of it like there is a word missing: walk [upon] the ramp, walk [upon] the battlements. But there is no word missing, you just have to adjust your idea of the verb "to walk" to include this definition, which is plain English. It is no more strange than "run the mile" or "swim the Channel" or "go the distance" or "jump the fence".

It didn't seem harsh to me and your views now helped me clearly understand the concept.
Lots of thanks to you and fivejedjon.

 

[payal desai]

And I apologise to you for the aggressive tone of my post. I must learn to count to ten before posting.

I don't completely accept your views on transitive verbs, but that is irrelevant to this post, so I shall say no more.

payal desai, as far as your original question is concerned, Coolfootluke's words are helpful:

'You can think of it like there is a word missing: walk [upon] the ramp, walk [upon] the battlements. But there is no word missing, you just have to adjust your idea of the verb "to walk" to include this definition, which is plain English. It is no more strange than "run the mile" or "swim the Channel" or "go the distance" or "jump the fence".

Yes coolfootluke's words are helpful to me and I got the concept now.

Thanks a lot.