Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

[White Hat]

Dear forumers,

I've been assigned to translate a number of annotations for articles that are going to be published in foreign journals.

Here is what I've got this time. This particular article is about preventive measures against drug abuse by at-risk teenagers. Right after the annotation, there are a few keywords. One of them is "учебно-воспитательный процесс". Basically, literally this means "the educational-bringing-up process", i.e. the process of educating and bringing up children at school.

Some sources say there is no need to use "bringing-up". So does the word "educational" already have that meaning? Can I just write "the educational process" and will native speakers get it?

Thank you in advance.

 

[emsr2d2]

I'd say "the education process" (rather than "educational"). However, that refers only to education and not to bringing them up. I can't think of a term which encompasses both.

 

[White Hat]

So if you, for instance, wanted to read this article and saw "education process" provided as a keyword, would you automatically think of not just teaching children various subjects but also teaching them how to behave?

 

[White Hat]

Basically, I just need to know if something like "education-bringingup process" would sound acceptable.

 

[emsr2d2]

Not really, no.

 

[emsr2d2]

So if you, for instance, wanted to read this article and saw "education process" provided as a keyword, would you automatically think of not just teaching children various subjects but also teaching them how to behave?

No, I wouldn't consider that the education process covers behavioural aspects.

 

[White Hat]

I'd say "the education process" (rather than "educational"). However, that refers only to education and not to bringing them up. I can't think of a term which encompasses both.

This is one of those grey areas we, Russian-to-English translators, have to deal with on a regular basis. Another one is "developments" - something, like software, that has been developed (I, most of the time, just say "solutions").

 

[White Hat]

emsr2d2, I really appreciate your willingness to help me with this. We might coin a new phrase with you right now. What is your final suggestion?

the education-? process

 

[emsr2d2]

I honestly wouldn't hyphenate anything. We don't even have a single for "bringing up children". Development is what the child does, it's not the process of actually bringing a child up, which incorporates teaching them how to behave properly, how to be polite, how to dress themselves, how to use the toilet, to encourage them to read and write and to get them educated at a suitable establishment.

Do you really have to have a "xxx-xxx process" phrase?

 

[White Hat]

Yes, hyphenation can be avoided through "and".

How does this sound to you:

"the education and upbringing process"

?

 

[White Hat]

Here is what I've found on the Internet:

"... successful students undergo an analogous 'bringing-up' process in the course of becoming an historian or physicist or whatever, similarly picking up attitudes, ..."

The author is Peter Levin. Looks like technically it IS possible to say so.

 

[emsr2d2]

Technically, it might well be but as a native speaker I would not consider that to include education. I really don't think that "the education-bringing-up process" works - too many hyphens. You could get away with "the education/bringing-up process" I suppose.

 

[White Hat]

Ok, great! I'll do that. I sometimes use this technique too. Cheers!