Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

[johnnesteixeira]

I would like to know if these words are homophones.

I also know other homophone words, like for example:
TO, TWO, TOO / ITS, IT'S / WHERE, WERE, WE'RE / THREE, TREE

I thank for all replies!

 

[5jj]

'Had and red' have different vowels.
Where and we're have different vowels.
Three and tree begin with different consonants.

There are no homophones there.

 

[Raymott]

There are no homophones there.

TO, TWO, TOO / ITS, IT'S / WHERE, WE'RE are homophones to me.

 

[Barb_D]

Where and we're are not for me. We're is "whee'r"
Wear, ware, and where are homophones.

 

[Tdol]

TO, TWO, TOO / ITS, IT'S / WHERE, WE'RE are homophones to me.

Where and we're aren't for me. (BrE speaker)

 

[Chicken Sandwich]

I don't consider where and we're to be homophones either. I hear a significant difference.

 

[Raymott]

I don't consider where and we're to be homophones either. I hear a significant difference.

I said "for me" because it's obvious that a homophone for me might not be a homophone for you. In general AusE, 'where' and 'we're' are homophones. 'They're' is also a homophone for 'their' and 'there' (for me).
I accept that the majority of native speakers would not consider them homophones, but I wasn't singling this one out; I was merely pointing out that 5jj's "There are no homophones here" might be confusing.
That brings up an interesting question of "What is a homophone in English?"
I agree that 'had' and 'red' are obviously not homophones, but maybe there are native speakers with dialects which do pronounce that vowel the same.

 

[5jj]

I agree that 'had' and 'red' are obviously not homophones, but maybe there are native speakers with dialects which do pronounce that vowel the same.

I have hear South Africans with a very flat vowel in 'had' that sounds very close to 'red' to me.

 

[5jj]

I was merely pointing out that 5jj's "There are no homophones here" might be confusing.
That brings up an interesting question of "What is a homophone in English?"

A good point. I should have added '... in my dialect of BrE'.

 

[Tdol]

A good point. I should have added '... in my dialect of BrE'.

So should I. In fact, I cheated and did. ;-)