He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop etc"

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He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop etc"

If someone gives their apartment, shop, room etc on rent to someone then we say "He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop etc". But if someone "lives on rent" then we say say "He has rented his apartment" or "He rents his apartment". Am I correct? We can also say "He runs a rented shop". Is it correct?
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

We don't say that someone "lives on rent". Where did you see that?
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

By "lives on rent", I think he means a person depends on the rent he collects for living expenses.

He runs a rented shop - He operates his business from a rented shop/rented premises.
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

I suppose you could say somebody runs a rented shop. (I don't know when it would come up, but who knows?)
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

We don't say that someone "lives on rent". Where did you see that?

Its mine. I meant "He lives in the rented accommodation".
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

Tufguy, I can't imagine anybody saying that. You live in a house or an apartment, not a "rented accommodation". Please don't use that again.
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

It's mine. I meant "He lives in [STRIKE]the[/STRIKE] rented accommodation".

That's not what it means.
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

If someone gives their apartment, shop, room etc on rent to someone then we say "He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop etc". But if someone "lives on rent" then we say say "He has rented his apartment" or "He rents his apartment". Am I correct? We can also say "He runs a rented shop". Is it correct?

I have some time today, so let's unpack this.

"He rents his apartment" is ambiguous mostly because here we are forced to try to understand this sentence as a stand-alone. Usually, context will make it quite clear. There are two situations possible with apartments and rent:
A. He owns an apartment but he does not live there. Some other person pays money to him so they can live there.
B. Some other person owns the apartment but they don't live there. He pays money to them so he can live there.

We refer to the place where he lives as 'his apartment' even though he does not own it, the same way we refer to a car's tires. We add the word out so it's clear we mean A above.

1. He has rented his apartment clearly means only A.
1a. He has rented an apartment means B even though now we may talk about going to visit him in his apartment.
2. He rents his apartment can mean equally A or B. We call it 'his' apartment whether he pays rent or collects rent.

There is a problem when we talk about the word shop. As a noun, it can mean either of two very different things:
X. A small retail establishment: a fruit shop, a dress shop, a coffee shop.
Y. A commercial establishment for the making or repair of goods or machinery: a machine shop, a woodworking shop, an auto repair shop, etc.

We do not rent X. We rent a retail space or a storefront which can be any kind of a store or an office or storage space, etc. Once the business is established, then we may refer to it as a shop, but it is the fitting and stocking of the space that makes it a shop.

It is possible to rent Y if I comes fully fitted out with the machinery to do that activity or run that business, but that is comparatively rare. It's possible also to rent space in X or Y but again, that's not common.

It is possible to "live on (the) rent" of an apartment, but once again, it's fairly rare. One would have to own an apartment that would command rent higher than the cost of living in the place where one actually lives to generate positive income. There would be no financial benefit to paying to live one place and collect equal (or less) rent on another. Such situations do occur due to logistical issues, but the owner is not 'living on rent'.
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

There is a problem when we talk about the word shop. As a noun, it can mean either of two very different things:
X. A small retail establishment: a fruit shop, a dress shop, a coffee shop.
Y. A commercial establishment for the making or repair of goods or machinery: a machine shop, a woodworking shop, an auto repair shop, etc.

That issue does not occur in British English. A shop is only X. Y is a workshop/garage.
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

That issue does not occur in British English. A shop is only X. Y is a workshop/garage.

Fine, but you haven't really answered the OP. Do you (in BrE) 'rent a shop' or do you rent a space and start a shop in that space? If I want to establish my law practice in a place that used to be a store that sold greeting cards, do I "rent a shop?"
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

In the UK, we usually lease a shop.
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

In the UK, we usually lease a shop.

Yes, that's what we might say, but J&K's point still stands—it's not technically the shop that we lease but rather the space. Using it as a shop is what we do with it.

We do not rent X. We rent a retail space or a storefront which can be any kind of a store or an office or storage space, etc. Once the business is established, then we may refer to it as a shop, but it is the fitting and stocking of the space that makes it a shop.
 
Re: He rents out his apartment, shop etc" or "He has rented out his apartment, shop e

In American English, shop space facing a street is often (somewhat illogically) called a storefront.
 
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