etc. (et cetera)

[Ducklet Cat]

etc. (et cetera) is pronounced "it setera" as you all know.
But I've run into a couple of people who pronounce it "ik setera"!
I'm I'm sure that they pronounced it with a "k".

I've looked for the pronunciation in several dictionaries and could not find any that list "ik setera" as a pronunciations.

Any input on that?

Thanks.

 

[DontBanMe]

etc. (et cetera) is pronounced "it setera" as you all know.
But I've run into a couple of people who pronounce it "ik setera"!
I'm I'm sure that they pronounced it with a "k".

I've looked for the pronunciation in several dictionaries and could not find any that list "ik setera" as a pronunciations.

Any input on that?

Thanks.

Well, I looked up my online dictionary and turns out the phonetics transcription is /ɛt ˈsɛtərə/ instead of /it setera/ or whatever pronunciation.

 

[thatone]

Merriam Webster does, though it's a dialectal pronunciation

Etcetera - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

 

[Ducklet Cat]

Well, I looked up my online dictionary and turns out the phonetics transcription is /ɛt ˈsɛtərə/ instead of /it setera/ or whatever pronunciation.

Yes, I was not transcribing the voewls right, my concentration was on the t/k thing.

Thanks.

 

[Ducklet Cat]

Merriam Webster does, though it's a dialectal pronunciation

Etcetera - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Great, thanks
Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?

 

[thatone]

Great, thanks
Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?

Perhaps, but it's a regional/dialectal things, along the lines of "aks" (for "ask") or "nucular" (for "nuclear").

 

[5jj]

According to John Wells in the LPD, /k/ is generally considered to be incorrect.

 

[BobK]

Great, thanks
Should I deduce it is an American pronunciation since it has been listed in Merriam and Webster?

Not just Am E. It's a common feature of some Br English as well - but it's a mistake (and is regarded with ridicule in some quarters). Don't use it.

b

 

[Ducklet Cat]

According to John Wells in the LPD, /k/ is generally considered to be incorrect.

Thanks fivejedjon.

Not just Am E. It's a common feature of some Br English as well - but it's a mistake (and is regarded with ridicule in some quarters). Don't use it.

b

Oh I see. Thanks.
What do you mean by "quarters"?

Thanks a lot all

 

[BobK]

...Oh I see. Thanks.
What do you mean by "quarters"?

Thanks a lot all

In some places/people/communities/classes ... anywhere opinions are held.

b

 

[Ducklet Cat]

Thanks a lot for your patience with my endless questions.

regards to all.

 

[Sydskid]

My 1974, Pocket Books, Merriam-Webster dictionary lists etc. (and so forth) as the abbrviation of the words "et cetera," which is then defined as meaning, "and others, especially of the same kind." Pronuciation of et cetera is given as: et se'tera. Where the pronuciation, "it cetera" comes from is beyond me, unles it was heard somewhere in the southeast, where a word, such as "pen" can be rendered as "pin," or even "pi'yun." :-|

 

[birdeen's call]

"t" is pronounced /k/ sometimes in some dialects. It is always a non-standard pronunciation.